From: ahmedloutfi@msn.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:19:07 +0300
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/july/21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy.com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
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Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/july/21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy.com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: m.farag@tedata.net.eg
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:35:40 +0300
"properly studied" Mr. Ahmed are you kidding? Since when they are studying
any thing . the minister of agriculture said " no way that will happen, the
manager of the zoo said " it will be done" I believe that they will do it no
way , that they leaked this piece of info as a testing balloon , that one
day we will wake and found that the sold the zoo , and the money paid by
whoever he/she/they , gone , disappeared n the huge belly of a 7000 years
government system - have you ever thought about what I called - the curse of
the civilization - I am afraid that on day the pyramids , tombs , temples
will be sold , but don't worry we will be left , simply because we worst
ZERO , you know why ? simply because we do nothing , we do no good for
ourself
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To: pen_temple_pilots@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present
location slated for sale to investors
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and
sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One
indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic):
http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/july/21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy.com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
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“properly studied” Mr. Ahmed are you kidding? Since when
they are studying any thing . the minister of agriculture said “ no way that
will happen, the manager of the zoo said “ it will be done” I believe that they
will do it no way , that they leaked this piece of info as a testing balloon ,
that one day we will wake and found that the sold the zoo , and the money paid
by whoever he/she/they , gone , disappeared n the huge belly of a 7000 years
government system – have you ever thought about what I called – the curse of
the civilization – I am afraid that on day the pyramids , tombs , temples will
be sold , but don’t worry we will be left , simply because we worst ZERO , you
know why ? simply because we do nothing , we do no good for ourself
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Subject: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present
location slated for sale to investors
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and
sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One
indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): href="http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/july/21/zoo.aspx">http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/july/21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy.com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
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Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: halhawary@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Templars,
?
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
From: Ahmed Nabil
Subject: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
To: pen_temple_pilots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
?
Dear PTPians,
?
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
?
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy. com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
?
?
Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
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Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: hussein.allam@caravelfinancial.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
Hello everyone,
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-35
Phone: +2-02-374-920-37
Fax: +2-02-376-196-23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
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From: hala al hawary
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear Templars,
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
>From: Ahmed Nabil
>Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
>Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
>
>
>
>Dear PTPians,
>
>It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
>
>The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
>More on Giza Zoo:
>http://www.egy. com/giza/
>http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
>
>
>
>________________________________
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I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Hussein Allam
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-35
Phone: +2-02-374-920-37
Fax:
+2-02-376-196-23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancial.com
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
From: hala al hawary <halhawary@yahoo.com>
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil <ahmedloutfi@ msn.com> wrote:
RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: msafeyeldin@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:29 +0000
Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
From: hussein.allam@caravelfinancial.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Hello everyone,
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-35
Phone: +2-02-374-920-37
Fax: +2-02-376-196-23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancial.com
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
From: hala al hawary
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear Templars,
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
From: Ahmed Nabil
Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy. com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
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Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
From: hussein.allam@caravelfinancial.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Hussein Allam
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-
Phone: +2-02-374-920-
Fax: +2-02-376-196-
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
From: hala al hawary <halhawary@yahoo.
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
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From: amoa05@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:31:25 -0700 (PDT)
تعتبر حديقة الحيوان بالجيزة واحدة من أجمل حدائق الحيوان فى العالم وهى واحدة من أكثر حدائق الحيوان كثافة من حيث العدد وتنوع فصائل وأنواع الحيوانات الموجودة بها. وتعود فكرة إنشاء حديقة الحيوان بالجيزة إلى الخديوى إسماعيل حاكم مصر (1863-1879) حيث كان أول من فكر فى إنشاء حديقة للحيوان بمناسبة إحتفالات إفتتاح قناة السويس فى سنة 1869 ولكنه لم يستطيع أن ينفذ فكرته وذلك لضيق الوقت المتاح قبل إفتتاح القناة. وفى مارس سنة 1891 تم إفتتاح حديقة الحيوان بالجيزة للجمهور، وتتميز حديقة الحيوان بالجيزة بنباتاتها النادرة والتى تم إستيرادها من خارج مصر
كما تتميز بمماشيها المميزة المغطاة بالحجارة الملونة والموضوعة فى أشكال هندسية رائعة، هذا بالإضافة إلى المجارى المائية والبحيرات والكبارى والتلال المعدة لسكن الحيوانات المختلفة وهذه التلال مزروعة بأنواع نادرة من نباتات الصبار. وتبلغ مساحة الحديقة حوالى 80 فدان وتقع بالقرب من الشاطئ الغربى للنيل ويطل الركن الشمالى منها على جامعة القاهرة، كما أن الحديقة لا تقع بعيداً عن وسط مدينة القاهرة وترتبط مع وسط القاهرة بالعديد من وسائل المواصلات. وقد ساعد جو مصر المعتدل على الحفاظ على حياة الحيوانات من مختلف مناطق العالم بدون
الإستعانة بوسائل تكييف الهواء للتدفئة أو التبريد. وتعتبر الحديقة معرض ضخم للحياة البرية الأفريقية وهى موطن لفصائل عديدة من الحيوانات والطيور التى إنقرضت حالياً من الوجود فى مصر وقد تم إستعادتها مرة أخرى لبيئتها الطبيعية التى إنقرضت من الوجود فيها من قبل ومن بين هذه الأنواع النادرة الماعز الجبلى والغزال المصرى و مالك الحزين.
والحديقة أيضاً تعمل كمعهد علمى حيث يعكف العلماء على دراسة سلوك الحيوانات والطيور وحالياً تقوم خمسة منظمات غير حكومية بعمل حملات لتشجيع الناس على الحفاظ على الحياة البرية وتنمية الوعى البيئى فى مصر.
وتتكون الحديقة من خمسة مناطق (فى صورة تلال) أكبرها الذى تم تشييده سنة 1867 ويسمى تل القلعة وهو مزين بمجموعة من التماثيل للديناصورات المنقرضة والتماسيح وطيور ذات أشكال غريبة. ويوجد على قمة التل حديقة صغيرة يمكن الصعود إليها بواسطة طريق حلزونى وتحتوى هذه الحديقة على مماشى مغطاة بالنباتات ومجموعة من مساقط المياه ومساحة فى المنتصف تستخدم كمكان للراحة كما يوجد بها مجموعة من التماثيل لطيور وزواحف مصنوعة من الأسمنت والحصى.
وتنساب المجارى المائية عبر مجموعة من الكهوف التى تحتوى على صخور مرجانية بيضاء معلقة داخل شلالات تؤدى إلى بحيرة صغيرة ذات جزيرتين متصلتين معاً بكوبرى خشبى.
وأمام بيت الأسود يوجد إثنين من التلال الصناعية متصلين معاً بكوبرى حديدى معلق نادر وهو الوحيد من نوعه فى مصر. وبالإضافة للحيوانات العديدة الموجودة بالحديقة يوجد متحف تم بناؤه سنة 1906 يتكون من ثلاث قاعات كبيرة ويعرض فيه مجموعات كبيرة من الطيور والزواحف والأسماك والحيوانات المحنطة علاوة على مجموعة من الهياكل العظمية. ويوجد أيضاً قاعتين يعرض بهما مجموعات مختلفة من جلود الزواحف والطيور وملحق بالمتحف معمل للتحنيط يقع خلف المتحف.
http://www.egyptianoasis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6562
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From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz
Received: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
To: "pen_temple_pilots PTP"
Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Hello everyone,
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555- 35
Phone: +2-02-374-920- 37
Fax: +2-02-376-196- 23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancia l.com
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear Templars,
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
From: Ahmed Nabil
Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy. com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
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RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: ahmedloutfi@msn.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:01:26 +0300
Dear Maha, Hussein and all,
I totally agree with you, for the zoo's current dilapidated condition should never constitute grounds for its demolition as Hussein had suggested. It already is a green historic area! Also, one simple fact was missed; target audience. I think it is a known fact that the zoo provides cheap and accessible entertainment (well, it should also offer eductation, but that's another story) to millions of poor Egyptians, moving the zoo (if you can miraculously transport very old trees and significant landmarks like the bridge built by Gustave Eiffel without permanently damaging them) to 6th October would deny those millions one of their already limited entertainment options. Also, sporting facilities? Who would be served by those facilities?
Cheers,
Ahmed
To: pen_temple_pilots@yahoogroups.com
From: msafeyeldin@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:29 +0000
Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
From: hussein.allam@caravelfinancial.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Hello everyone,
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-35
Phone: +2-02-374-920-37
Fax: +2-02-376-196-23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancial.com
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From: hala al hawary
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear Templars,
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
From: Ahmed Nabil
Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
Dear PTPians,
It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
More on Giza Zoo:
http://www.egy. com/giza/
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
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Dear Maha, Hussein and all,
I totally agree with you, for the zoo's current dilapidated condition should never constitute grounds for its demolition as Hussein had suggested. It already is a green historic area! Also, one simple fact was missed; target audience. I think it is a known fact that the zoo provides cheap and accessible entertainment (well, it should also offer eductation, but that's another story) to millions of poor Egyptians, moving the zoo (if you can miraculously transport very old trees and significant landmarks like the bridge built by Gustave Eiffel without permanently damaging them) to 6th October would deny those millions one of their already limited entertainment options. Also, sporting facilities? Who would be served by those facilities?
Cheers,
Ahmed
To: pen_temple_pilots@yahoogroups.com
From: msafeyeldin@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:29 +0000
Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@
From: hussein.allam@
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Hussein Allam
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555-
Phone: +2-02-374-920-
Fax: +2-02-376-196-
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
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From: hala al hawary <halhawary@yahoo.
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_
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Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: anmoussa@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:26:10 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Maha and All,
I?disagree with you, the zoo should be transformed into a public park, keeping all the old tree, semi lacks and the old building that?have historical value.?Simply because it is not healthy for the animals themselves to live in?such polluted environment like?the one they currently have.?It is better for them to move to a better atmosphere?and environment.
Plus, Giza really needs a greenery area, a park?instead of concrete buildings that will?increase the population and traffic in?one of the most?crowded area in Cairo and may be in Egypt.
I wish I can send a letter to the?Governor?of Giza, I might be a dreamer?imaging that?he will pay attention to it, but?I know for sure that we should not stand still, letting the Giza lose one of its NATIONAL TREASURES.
FYI, The Giza Zoo is almost?more than a?100 years old.
Noble.
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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:29 PM
From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz
To: pen_temple_pilots PTP
Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
?
?
?
Dear all and Hussein,
?
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo?is already
a green area!
?
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous?zoological park?
which is world renouned for its unique and original?landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and?its unique and?almost extinct
collection of?animals, the Giza zoo was?the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora.?It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
?
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
?
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
?
?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
?
________________________________
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
?
Hello everyone,
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555- 35
Phone: +2-02-374-920- 37
Fax: +2-02-376-196- 23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancia l.com
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
________________________________
From: hala al hawary
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
?
Dear Templars,
If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil wrote:
>From: Ahmed Nabil
>Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
>Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
>
>
>?
>Dear PTPians,
>?
>It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
>?
>The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
>More on Giza Zoo:
>http://www.egy. com/giza/
>http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
>?
>?
>
>________________________________
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From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz <msafeyeldin@hotmail.com>
To: pen_temple_pilots PTP <pen_temple_pilots@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all and Hussein,
I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo is already
a green area!
Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous zoological park
which is world renouned for its unique and original landscape and its wide collection of
animals and birds from all over the world, and its unique and almost extinct
collection of animals, the Giza zoo was the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
of flora. It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
hundred years to grow trees like that if
ever!
Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
this natural AND national treasure?!!
I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
Hussein Allam
Caravel Financial
Mobile: +2-010-56-555- 35
Phone: +2-02-374-920- 37
Fax: +2-02-376-196- 23
1 El Yemen St.
Apt. 18, 7th Floor
Dokki, Giza
12311
Egypt
www.caravelfinancia l.com
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
From: hala al hawary <halhawary@yahoo. com>
To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil <ahmedloutfi@ msn.com> wrote:
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Re: 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all,
I think this is a very healthy discussion about one of our national treasures. I agree with some of you and disagree with some.
What I strongly believe in is that this government or any other has no right to dispose of the Egyptian people's property like that. These are our collective possessions we're talking about.
Any government in a country that has some self respect would consult its people or their representatives before they "plan" to sell a massive national property.
Imagine what would happen if the new American administration announced that it is planning on its own to sell the New York Central Park to some D..... investors!!!
I call myself cultured but there are information I learned for the first time about Giza Zoo since this issue was raised.
Let's think of how we can make the people in the street more aware of the preciousness of Giza Zoo. I think it's our duty as PTPians.
As for idea of selling the zoo to transform it into a park. With all due respect to the preservation of trees, architecture and everything. Aren't parks supposed to be PUBLIC??!!
Proud to be a PTPian,
Ghada Mahmoud
--- In Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com, Noble wrote:
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:29 PM wrote:
>
> Dear Maha and All,
> I?disagree with you, the zoo should be transformed into a public park, keeping all the old tree, semi lacks and the old building that?have historical value.?Simply because it is not healthy for the animals themselves to live in?such polluted environment like?the one they currently have.?It is better for them to move to a better atmosphere?and environment.
>
> Plus, Giza really needs a greenery area, a park?instead of concrete buildings that will?increase the population and traffic in?one of the most?crowded area in Cairo and may be in Egypt.
>
> I wish I can send a letter to the?Governor?of Giza, I might be a dreamer?imaging that?he will pay attention to it, but?I know for sure that we should not stand still, letting the Giza lose one of its NATIONAL TREASURES.
>
> FYI, The Giza Zoo is almost?more than a?100 years old.
>
>
> Noble.
>
>
> ########################################
> Life without risk, is waste of oxygen.
> ########################################
>
>
> Before printing, Please consider the environment
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz
> To: pen_temple_pilots PTP
> Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear all and Hussein,
> ?
> I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
> an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
> facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo?is already
> a green area!
> ?
> Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous?zoological park?
> which is world renouned for its unique and original?landscape and its wide collection of
> animals and birds from all over the world, and?its unique and?almost extinct
> collection of?animals, the Giza zoo was?the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
> for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
> of flora.?It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
> hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
> ?
> Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
> this natural AND national treasure?!!
> ?
> I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
> else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
> ?
> ?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
> ?
>
> ________________________________
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Hello everyone,
>
> I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hussein Allam
> Managing Director
>
> Caravel Financial
>
> Mobile: +2-010-56-555- 35
> Phone: +2-02-374-920- 37
> Fax: +2-02-376-196- 23
>
> 1 El Yemen St.
> Apt. 18, 7th Floor
> Dokki, Giza
> 12311
> Egypt
>
> www.caravelfinancia l.com
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hala al hawary
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Dear Templars,
>
> If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil
>
>
> >From: Ahmed Nabil
> >Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
> >To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> >Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
> >
> >
> >?
> >Dear PTPians,
> >?
> >It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
> >?
> >The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
> >More on Giza Zoo:
> >http://www.egy. com/giza/
> >http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
> >?
> >?
> >
> >________________________________
> Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family
>
Re: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] Re: 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
From: hussein.allam@caravelfinancial.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:58:08 +0000
I think we should form a consensus to present a unified voice and perhaps start taking action. To sum up here are the three main solutions that were raised:
1. The government's proposal: move the zoo to 6th October and sell the site to real estate developers
2. Keep the zoo as it is
3. Recognize that the current animal keeping facilities are hopelessly outdated and inhumane and redevelop the zoo into a public park while preserving its heritage of tress, plants and distinctive architecture (such as the bridge).
Can I ask the group's moderators to setup a poll where we can all vote on the issue?
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Cel: +2-010-56-555-35
www.caravelfinancial.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: "ghadamahmoud22"
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:38:39
To:
Subject: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] Re: 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all,
I think this is a very healthy discussion about one of our national treasures. I agree with some of you and disagree with some.
What I strongly believe in is that this government or any other has no right to dispose of the Egyptian people's property like that. These are our collective possessions we're talking about.
Any government in a country that has some self respect would consult its people or their representatives before they "plan" to sell a massive national property.
Imagine what would happen if the new American administration announced that it is planning on its own to sell the New York Central Park to some D..... investors!!!
I call myself cultured but there are information I learned for the first time about Giza Zoo since this issue was raised.
Let's think of how we can make the people in the street more aware of the preciousness of Giza Zoo. I think it's our duty as PTPians.
As for idea of selling the zoo to transform it into a park. With all due respect to the preservation of trees, architecture and everything. Aren't parks supposed to be PUBLIC??!!
Proud to be a PTPian,
Ghada Mahmoud
--- In Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com, Noble wrote:
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:29 PM wrote:
>
> Dear Maha and All,
> I?disagree with you, the zoo should be transformed into a public park, keeping all the old tree, semi lacks and the old building that?have historical value.?Simply because it is not healthy for the animals themselves to live in?such polluted environment like?the one they currently have.?It is better for them to move to a better atmosphere?and environment.
>
> Plus, Giza really needs a greenery area, a park?instead of concrete buildings that will?increase the population and traffic in?one of the most?crowded area in Cairo and may be in Egypt.
>
> I wish I can send a letter to the?Governor?of Giza, I might be a dreamer?imaging that?he will pay attention to it, but?I know for sure that we should not stand still, letting the Giza lose one of its NATIONAL TREASURES.
>
> FYI, The Giza Zoo is almost?more than a?100 years old.
>
>
> Noble.
>
>
> ########################################
> Life without risk, is waste of oxygen.
> ########################################
>
>
> Before printing, Please consider the environment
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz
> To: pen_temple_pilots PTP
> Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear all and Hussein,
> ?
> I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
> an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
> facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo?is already
> a green area!
> ?
> Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous?zoological park?
> which is world renouned for its unique and original?landscape and its wide collection of
> animals and birds from all over the world, and?its unique and?almost extinct
> collection of?animals, the Giza zoo was?the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
> for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
> of flora.?It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
> hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
> ?
> Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
> this natural AND national treasure?!!
> ?
> I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
> else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
> ?
> ?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo
> ?
>
>________________________________
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Hello everyone,
>
> I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hussein Allam
> Managing Director
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>________________________________
> From: hala al hawary
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Dear Templars,
>
> If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil
>
>
> >From: Ahmed Nabil
> >Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
> >To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> >Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
> >
> >
> >?
> >Dear PTPians,
> >?
> >It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
> >?
> >The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
> >More on Giza Zoo:
> >http://www.egy. com/giza/
> >http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
> >?
> >?
> >
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I think we should form a consensus to present a unified voice and perhaps start taking action. To sum up here are the three main solutions that were raised:1. The government's proposal: move the zoo to 6th October and sell the site to real estate developers
2. Keep the zoo as it is
3. Recognize that the current animal keeping facilities are hopelessly outdated and inhumane and redevelop the zoo into a public park while preserving its heritage of tress, plants and distinctive architecture (such as the bridge).
Can I ask the group's moderators to setup a poll where we can all vote on the issue?
Hussein Allam
Managing Director
Caravel Financial
Cel: +2-010-56-555-35
www.caravelfinancial.com
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From: "ghadamahmoud22"
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:38:39 -0000
To: <Pen_Temple_Pilots@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Pen_Temple_Pilots] Re: 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
Dear all,
yahoogroups.com , Noble <anmoussa@...> wrote:########################################################____________________...>yahoogroups.com >Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors.org/wiki/Giza_Zoo _________________________________________________________________________________
I think this is a very healthy discussion about one of our national treasures. I agree with some of you and disagree with some.
What I strongly believe in is that this government or any other has no right to dispose of the Egyptian people's property like that. These are our collective possessions we're talking about.
Any government in a country that has some self respect would consult its people or their representatives before they "plan" to sell a massive national property.
Imagine what would happen if the new American administration announced that it is planning on its own to sell the New York Central Park to some D..... investors!!!
I call myself cultured but there are information I learned for the first time about Giza Zoo since this issue was raised.
Let's think of how we can make the people in the street more aware of the preciousness of Giza Zoo. I think it's our duty as PTPians.
As for idea of selling the zoo to transform it into a park. With all due respect to the preservation of trees, architecture and everything. Aren't parks supposed to be PUBLIC??!!
Proud to be a PTPian,
Ghada Mahmoud
--- In Pen_Temple_Pilots@
>
> Dear Maha and All,
> I?disagree with you, the zoo should be transformed into a public park, keeping all the old tree, semi lacks and the old building that?have historical value.?Simply because it is not healthy for the animals themselves to live in?such polluted environment like?the one they currently have.?It is better for them to move to a better atmosphere?and environment.
>
> Plus, Giza really needs a greenery area, a park?instead of concrete buildings that will?increase the population and traffic in?one of the most?crowded area in Cairo and may be in Egypt.
>
> I wish I can send a letter to the?Governor?of Giza, I might be a dreamer?imaging that?he will pay attention to it, but?I know for sure that we should not stand still, letting the Giza lose one of its NATIONAL TREASURES.
>
> FYI, The Giza Zoo is almost?more than a?100 years old.
>
>
> Noble.
>
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>____________
> From: Maha Safey Eldin Aboulezz <msafeyeldin@
> To: pen_temple_pilots PTP <pen_temple_pilots@
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [Pen_Temple_
>
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear all and Hussein,
> ?
> I'm afraid I don't agree with you about the zoo being:" ...redevelopped into
> an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting
> facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas." Well, the zoo?is already
> a green area!
> ?
> Apart from moving Egypt's one and only very old and famous?zoological park?
> which is world renouned for its unique and original?landscape and its wide collection of
> animals and birds from all over the world, and?its unique and?almost extinct
> collection of?animals, the Giza zoo was?the third best zoo worldwide especially famous
> for containing some of the rarest and oldest trees in the world and it's huge assortment
> of flora.?It was also a beautiful botanical park in its own right! It should take us several
> hundred years to grow trees like that if ever!
> ?
> Those trees can never be replaced. I wonder what THEY are planning to do about
> this natural AND national treasure?!!
> ?
> I think OUR zoo should be left alone, and those 'entrepreneurs' could go look somewhere
> else to invest their money! Just 'live and let live'.
> ?
> ?
> http://en.wikipedia
> ?
>
>____________
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> From: hussein.allam@ caravelfinancial .com
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:36:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Hello everyone,
>
> I would actually argue for closing the zoo altogether (just look at the condition in which the animals are kept). However the site should not be sold to real estate companies as the area is already far too crowded but rather it should be redeveloped into an open public park with an underground garage and maybe some sporting facilities. Cairo is in desperate need of green areas. Something like London's Regent Park would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hussein Allam
> Managing Director
>
> Caravel Financial
>
> Mobile: +2-010-56-555- 35
> Phone: +2-02-374-920- 37
> Fax: +2-02-376-196- 23
>
> 1 El Yemen St.
> Apt. 18, 7th Floor
> Dokki, Giza
> 12311
> Egypt
>
> www.caravelfinancia l.com
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
>
>
>
>____________
> From: hala al hawary <halhawary@yahoo. com>
> To: Pen_Temple_Pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:05:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
>
> ?
> Dear Templars,
>
> If you all remember how much I was disappointed last December when I saw the Zoo. Is this going to be one of the places to be sold out to investors, random?? How about the rest of the city? Are we expecting the Pyramids to be one day sold out, and the Citadel? What about the Khan El Khalili. Why are all our artifacts and this is one of them, being easily sold out as if no one ever cares. I wonder....Hala.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Ahmed Nabil <ahmedloutfi@ msn.com> wrote:
>
>
> >From: Ahmed Nabil <ahmedloutfi@ msn.com>
> >Subject: [Pen_Temple_ Pilots] 'Giza' Zoo moves to 6th October, present location slated for sale to investors
> >To: pen_temple_pilots@ yahoogroups. com
> >Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
> >
> >
> >?
> >Dear PTPians,
> >?
> >It seems that the government plans on moving the Giza Zoo to 6th October and sell the 80 acres currently occopied by the zoo to interested investors. One indeed wonders if such a move was properly studied- if at all.
> >?
> >The unfortunate news (in Arabic): http://www.masrawy. com/News/ Egypt/Politics/ 2009/july/ 21/zoo.aspx
> >More on Giza Zoo:
> >http://www.egy. com/giza/
> >http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Giza_Zoo
> >?
> >?
> >
> >___________
> Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
>
>
>
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