RE: [Mideast-Man] Economic development in place of political rights?

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From: auwaisheg@gcc-sg.org
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:28:45 +0300
Dear List:

Thanks to Najla for sharing the article (Women's business: Saudi women
ask if economic development, not political rights, holds
the key to liberation By Charles A. Radin, Globe Staff | October 3,
2004),

I found it informative, despite the fact that the journalist did not
seem to have special expertise on Saudi Arabia, just common sense. The
sentiments expressed by some in the article certainly reflect those of a
good number of Saudis.

However, I think that the article misses the mark on at least three
points:

1.The article says:

"Virtually no reliable statistics are available about domestic issues in
Saudi Arabia, so no one knows exactly how many women are working or are
getting higher education."

In fact, had the journalist dug a little bit, he would have found fairly
reliable figures for women getting higher education (a lot), and for
employed women (very few).

2.The article quotes one businesswoman as saying, "First I ask for
the right of men to vote. Then I will ask for women," referring to Saudi
Arabia's upcoming, first-ever local elections. But such a view is based
on a false dichotomy: hat somehow women's participation in elections
would be at the expense of their male compatriots. In fact, at this
stage of political development in Saudi Arabia, voting by men and women
could strengthen both groups simultaneously. The current contest is
between citizens in general and the government, which like most
governments would like to keep all authority in its own hands unless it
has no other choice. Whether in regard to elections or other political
rights, Saudi men and women could work as a coalition to secure some
measure of popular participation. Both men and women stand to lose if
they let the struggle to secure political rights be left to men
exclusively. Women especially would lose if they let their brethren get
their rights first. As has happened in other countries, men may not be
so eager to share their newly found power, if they get that far.

3.The title of the piece "Saudi women ask if economic development,
not political rights, holds the key to liberation" employs another
tired, false dichotomy between economic and political rights. The issue
has been debated for decades within the human rights community, but the
consensus has been that no tradeoff between these two rights categories
is necessary; they in fact enforce each other. Political rights enable
citizens to seek and enjoy economic rights, while economic rights put
substance to political rights. In most Arab countries, a measure of
both is needed simultaneously. For example, freedom of expression and
the right to form associations are instrumental to enable citizens to
seek economic justice. At the same time, and unless some measure of
economic needs are provided, citizens' ability to demand political
rights is limited.

Thanks again for sharing the article,

Abdel Aziz

Dr. Abdel Aziz Abu Hamad Aluwaisheg

Minister Plenipotentiary

Director - Economic Integration Department

Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC)

P.O. Box 7153

Riyadh 11462

Saudi Arabia

Email: auwaisheg@GCC-sg.org





class=878522212-11102004>Dear List:


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class=878522212-11102004>Thanks to Najla for sharing the article ( class=878522212-11102004>Women's business: Saudi women
ask if economic development, not political rights, holds
the key to
liberation By Charles A. Radin, Globe Staff  |  October 3,
2004)
,


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just common sense.  The sentiments
expressed by some in the article certainly reflect those of a good number of
Saudis.  


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However, I
think that the article misses the mark on at least three points:


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  1. style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"> face=Georgia>The article says:

face=Georgia>“Virtually no reliable statistics are available about domestic
issues in Saudi
Arabia
, so no one knows exactly how many women
are working or are getting higher
education.”


In fact,
had the journalist dug a little bit, he would have found fairly reliable figures
for women getting higher education (a lot), and for employed women (very
few).


face=Georgia> 



  1. style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"> face=Georgia>The article quotes one businesswoman as saying, "First I ask for
    the right of men to vote. Then I will ask for women," referring to
    Saudi
    Arabia
    's upcoming, first-ever local
    elections.  But such a view is
    based on a false dichotomy: hat somehow women’s participation in elections
    would be at the expense of their male compatriots. In fact, at this stage of
    political development in w:st="on">Saudi Arabia, voting by men and
    women could strengthen both groups simultaneously. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> The current contest is between citizens
    in general and the government, which like most governments would like to keep
    all authority in its own hands unless it has no other choice. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  Whether in regard to elections or
    other political rights, Saudi men and women could work as a coalition to
    secure some measure of popular participation. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  Both men and women stand to lose if
    they let the struggle to secure political rights be left to men exclusively.
     Women especially would lose if
    they let their brethren get their rights first. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  As has happened in other countries,
    men may not be so eager to share their newly found power, if they get that
    far.

face=Georgia> 



  1. style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"> face=Georgia>The title of the piece “Saudi women ask if economic development,
    not political rights, holds the key to liberation” employs another tired,
    false dichotomy between economic and political rights. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> The issue has been debated for decades
    within the human rights community, but the consensus has been that no tradeoff
    between these two rights categories is necessary; they in fact enforce each
    other.  Political rights enable
    citizens to seek and enjoy economic rights, while economic rights put
    substance to political rights.  In
    most Arab countries, a measure of both is needed simultaneously. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  For example, freedom of expression and
    the right to form associations are instrumental to enable citizens to seek
    economic justice.  At the same
    time, and unless some measure of economic needs are provided, citizens’
    ability to demand political rights is limited.

face=Georgia> 


face=Georgia>Thanks again for sharing
the article,


face=Georgia> 


Abdel
Aziz


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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Dr. Abdel Aziz Abu Hamad
Aluwaisheg


style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Minister Plenipotentiary


style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Director - Economic Integration
Department


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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Gulf Cooperation Council
(GCC)


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Box

7153
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w:st="on"> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Riyadh style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'"> 11462


w:st="on"> style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Saudi
Arabia
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Email: href="mailto:auwaisheg@GCC-sg.org">auwaisheg@GCC-sg.org