Seeking suggestions about spelling of a name, specially from Arab and English speaking friends

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SWY NET

From: asheq13@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC)

DearFriends,

 MayI get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is moreappropriate?  I need to advise my relative on this matter.

 AyeshaSiddiqa Lamia 

 AyeshaSiddiqua Lamia 

 AyeshaSiddika Lamia 

 Regards,

AshequlIslam

SWY1996 

Bangladesh 

asheqbd@gmail.com

On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] wrote:

 

Dear SWY Family, 
Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!

Henry Tsang | SWY29henrytsangarchitet@gmail.com
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Henry Tsang Ph.D.Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of ArchitectureRegistered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GAhenrytsangarchitect.com
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Dear
Friends,

 May
I get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is more
appropriate?  I need to advise my relative on this matter.

 Ayesha
Siddiqa Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddiqua Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddika Lamia 

 
Regards,

Ashequl
Islam

SWY
1996 

Bangladesh 

asheqbd@gmail.com




On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] <SWY-NET-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Dear SWY Family, 


Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!

Henry Tsang | SWY29

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Henry Tsang Ph.D.
Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of Architecture
Registered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GA

craig.morkel.67

From: craig.morkel.67@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 19:09:12 +0200
Hi Ashequl

How do you define "appropriate" in this instance?

In English we borrow many words from other languages, and spell and pronounce it as in the original language; for example:

• "boulevard" (French).
• "safari" (Swahili).
• "trek" (Afrikaans).

A name does not need to conform to the dominant culture within a particular context.

Many people all over the world are re-asserting their personal and cultural identities with the names that their parents have given them or a change in association on a cultural or religious basis, after some period of using another name; nickname or an abbreviated version of their official name (as per birth record); for example:

• "Yusuf" vs Joseph or Joe or Yussie.
• "Michael" vs Mike or Mick.
• "Mohamed Ali" vs Cassius Clay.

In South Africa, we have 11 official languages representing associated cultural groups. During the Colonial and Apartheid period of SA history, ending with the advent of Democracy in 1994, most people in positions of power (read: White South Africans of European extraction) gave those who they oppressed (read: indigenous people, slaves and indentured labour) Eurocentric names.

Many oppressed peoples even adopted their the family name of their 'master'.

As official Colonial & Apartheid government policy at the time enforced that SA was a Christian State, many oppressed peoples were forced to adopt Eurocentric names. Many oppressed people also voluntarily adopted these Eurocentric identities as an attempt at 'gentrification' in order to assimilate the cultural identity of those who held socio-economic and political power at that time.

Many indigenous people therefore gave their children both an indigenous name and a Eurocentric name, even if their surname was indigenous.

Some even changed the spelling of their indigenous surnames / family names to more Eurocentric sounding names; for example:
• "Mlambo" to Malambo.
• "Klein" to Small.
• "Ndlovu" to Olifant or Oliphant.

Nevertheless, no matter what parents name their children, they will develop their own identities as they grow older. Although parents may raise their children to follow their family and cultural traditions, the more they are exposed to other individuals, families, cultures both locally and internationally, they will adopt identities depending on their context.

Everyone seeks to belong and have a purpose.

Ikagai

Warm regards

Craig Morkel
SWY8 (1996) - RSA

+27849023032

> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:14, "ashequl islam asheq13@yahoo.com [SWY-NET]" wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> May I get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is more appropriate? I need to advise my relative on this matter.
> Ayesha Siddiqa Lamia
> Ayesha Siddiqua Lamia
> Ayesha Siddika Lamia
>
> Regards,
> Ashequl Islam
> SWY 1996
> Bangladesh
> asheqbd@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear SWY Family,
>
> Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!
>
> Henry Tsang | SWY29
> henrytsangarchitet@gmail.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Henry Tsang Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of Architecture
> Registered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GA
> henrytsangarchitect.com
>

Hi Ashequl

How do you define "appropriate" in this instance?

In English we borrow many words from other languages, and spell and pronounce it as in the original language; for example:

• "boulevard" (French).
• "safari" (Swahili).
• "trek" (Afrikaans).

A name does not need to conform to the dominant culture within a particular context.

Many people all over the world are re-asserting their personal and cultural identities with the names that their parents have given them or a change in association on a cultural or religious basis, after some period of using another name; nickname or an abbreviated version of their official name (as per birth record); for example:

• "Yusuf" vs Joseph or Joe or Yussie.
• "Michael" vs Mike or Mick.
• "Mohamed Ali" vs Cassius Clay.

In South Africa, we have 11 official languages representing associated cultural groups. During the Colonial and Apartheid period of SA history, ending with the advent of Democracy in 1994, most people in positions of power (read: White South Africans of European extraction) gave those who they oppressed (read: indigenous people, slaves and indentured labour) Eurocentric names. 

Many oppressed peoples even adopted their the family name of their 'master'. 

As official Colonial & Apartheid government policy at the time enforced that SA was a Christian State, many oppressed peoples were forced to adopt Eurocentric names. Many oppressed people also voluntarily adopted these Eurocentric identities as an attempt at 'gentrification' in order to assimilate the cultural identity of those who held socio-economic and political power at that time.

Many indigenous people therefore gave their children both an indigenous name and a Eurocentric name, even if their surname was indigenous. 

Some even changed the spelling of their indigenous surnames / family names to more Eurocentric sounding names; for example:
• "Mlambo" to Malambo.
• "Klein" to Small.
• "Ndlovu" to Olifant or Oliphant.

Nevertheless, no matter what parents name their children, they will develop their own identities as they grow older. Although parents may raise their children to follow their family and cultural traditions, the more they are exposed to other individuals, families, cultures both locally and internationally, they will adopt identities depending on their context.

Everyone seeks to belong and have a purpose.

Ikagai

Warm regards

Craig Morkel

SWY8 (1996) - RSA

+27849023032

On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:14, "ashequl islam asheq13@yahoo.com [SWY-NET]" <SWY-NET-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


Dear
Friends,

 May
I get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is more
appropriate?  I need to advise my relative on this matter.

 Ayesha
Siddiqa Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddiqua Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddika Lamia 

 
Regards,

Ashequl
Islam

SWY
1996 

Bangladesh 

asheqbd@gmail.com




On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] <SWY-NET-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Dear SWY Family, 


Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!

Henry Tsang | SWY29

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Henry Tsang Ph.D.
Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of Architecture
Registered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GA

Tue, 2018/06/19 - 8:09pm Permalink
asheq13

From: asheq13@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:35:35 +0000 (UTC)

Dear Maha, Ismail, Craig and BuntuMajaja,

Many thanks for your suggestion about the name of the baby.Finally, we chose the following spelling for my relative:

 Ayesha Siddiqa Lamia

 Regards,

Ashequl Islam

SWY 8, Bangladesh

Md.Ashequl Islam

Managing DirectorCreativeResearch and Development3/1,Block F, Lalmatia, Dhaka 1207Phone:+88 01713 01 5678Email:ashequl.islam@creativebd.net,asheqbd@gmail.comSkype:ashequl2014www.creativebd.net

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 11:09:23 PM GMT+6, Craig Morkel (Gmail) wrote:

Hi Ashequl
How do you define "appropriate" in this instance?
In English we borrow many words from other languages, and spell and pronounce it as in the original language; for example:
• "boulevard" (French).• "safari" (Swahili).• "trek" (Afrikaans).
A name does not need to conform to the dominant culture within a particular context.
Many people all over the world are re-asserting their personal and cultural identities with the names that their parents have given them or a change in association on a cultural or religious basis, after some period of using another name; nickname or an abbreviated version of their official name (as per birth record); for example:
• "Yusuf" vs Joseph or Joe or Yussie.• "Michael" vs Mike or Mick.• "Mohamed Ali" vs Cassius Clay.
In South Africa, we have 11 official languages representing associated cultural groups. During the Colonial and Apartheid period of SA history, ending with the advent of Democracy in 1994, most people in positions of power (read: White South Africans of European extraction) gave those who they oppressed (read: indigenous people, slaves and indentured labour) Eurocentric names. 
Many oppressed peoples even adopted their the family name of their 'master'. 
As official Colonial & Apartheid government policy at the time enforced that SA was a Christian State, many oppressed peoples were forced to adopt Eurocentric names. Many oppressed people also voluntarily adopted these Eurocentric identities as an attempt at 'gentrification' in order to assimilate the cultural identity of those who held socio-economic and political power at that time.
Many indigenous people therefore gave their children both an indigenous name and a Eurocentric name, even if their surname was indigenous. 
Some even changed the spelling of their indigenous surnames / family names to more Eurocentric sounding names; for example:• "Mlambo" to Malambo.• "Klein" to Small.• "Ndlovu" to Olifant or Oliphant.
Nevertheless, no matter what parents name their children, they will develop their own identities as they grow older. Although parents may raise their children to follow their family and cultural traditions, the more they are exposed to other individuals, families, cultures both locally and internationally, they will adopt identities depending on their context.
Everyone seeks to belong and have a purpose.
Ikagai

Warm regards
Craig MorkelSWY8 (1996) - RSA
+27849023032
On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:14, "ashequl islam asheq13@yahoo.com [SWY-NET]" wrote:

 

DearFriends,

 MayI get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is moreappropriate?  I need to advise my relative on this matter.

 AyeshaSiddiqa Lamia 

 AyeshaSiddiqua Lamia 

 AyeshaSiddika Lamia 

 Regards,

AshequlIslam

SWY1996 

Bangladesh 

asheqbd@gmail.com

On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] wrote:

 

Dear SWY Family, 
Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!

Henry Tsang | SWY29henrytsangarchitet@gmail.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Henry Tsang Ph.D.Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of ArchitectureRegistered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GAhenrytsangarchitect.com



Dear Maha, Ismail, Craig and Buntu
Majaja,


Many thanks for your suggestion about the name of the baby.
Finally, we chose the following spelling for my relative:

 Ayesha Siddiqa Lamia

 Regards,

Ashequl Islam

SWY 8, Bangladesh


Md.
Ashequl Islam


Managing Director
Creative
Research and Development
3/1,
Block F, Lalmatia, Dhaka 1207
Phone:
+88 01713 01 5678
Skype:
ashequl2014



On Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 11:09:23 PM GMT+6, Craig Morkel (Gmail) <craig.morkel.67@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Ashequl

How do you define "appropriate" in this instance?

In English we borrow many words from other languages, and spell and pronounce it as in the original language; for example:

• "boulevard" (French).
• "safari" (Swahili).
• "trek" (Afrikaans).

A name does not need to conform to the dominant culture within a particular context.

Many people all over the world are re-asserting their personal and cultural identities with the names that their parents have given them or a change in association on a cultural or religious basis, after some period of using another name; nickname or an abbreviated version of their official name (as per birth record); for example:

• "Yusuf" vs Joseph or Joe or Yussie.
• "Michael" vs Mike or Mick.
• "Mohamed Ali" vs Cassius Clay.

In South Africa, we have 11 official languages representing associated cultural groups. During the Colonial and Apartheid period of SA history, ending with the advent of Democracy in 1994, most people in positions of power (read: White South Africans of European extraction) gave those who they oppressed (read: indigenous people, slaves and indentured labour) Eurocentric names. 

Many oppressed peoples even adopted their the family name of their 'master'. 

As official Colonial & Apartheid government policy at the time enforced that SA was a Christian State, many oppressed peoples were forced to adopt Eurocentric names. Many oppressed people also voluntarily adopted these Eurocentric identities as an attempt at 'gentrification' in order to assimilate the cultural identity of those who held socio-economic and political power at that time.

Many indigenous people therefore gave their children both an indigenous name and a Eurocentric name, even if their surname was indigenous. 

Some even changed the spelling of their indigenous surnames / family names to more Eurocentric sounding names; for example:
• "Mlambo" to Malambo.
• "Klein" to Small.
• "Ndlovu" to Olifant or Oliphant.

Nevertheless, no matter what parents name their children, they will develop their own identities as they grow older. Although parents may raise their children to follow their family and cultural traditions, the more they are exposed to other individuals, families, cultures both locally and internationally, they will adopt identities depending on their context.

Everyone seeks to belong and have a purpose.

Ikagai

Warm regards

Craig Morkel

SWY8 (1996) - RSA

+27849023032

On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:14, "ashequl islam asheq13@yahoo.com [SWY-NET]" <SWY-NET-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


Dear
Friends,

 May
I get your suggestion about which of the following spelling of a baby-daughter is more
appropriate?  I need to advise my relative on this matter.

 Ayesha
Siddiqa Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddiqua Lamia 

 Ayesha
Siddika Lamia 

 
Regards,

Ashequl
Islam

SWY
1996 

Bangladesh 

asheqbd@gmail.com




On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 7:15:48 PM GMT+6, Henry Tsang henrytsangarchitect@gmail.com [SWY-NET] <SWY-NET-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Dear SWY Family, 


Anyone in Korea?? A few SWYers will be hanging out in Seoul on Saturday June 2 at 7:00 in Gangnam. There will be members from Peru, Venezuela, Kenya, Canada and Japan. We will be meeting up for dinner and drinks. Lemme know if anyone is here!

Henry Tsang | SWY29

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Henry Tsang Ph.D.
Assistant Professor | Keimyung University | College of Architecture
Registered Architect (Canada) | OAQ, MRAIC, AIK, LEED GA

Fri, 2018/06/29 - 9:35am Permalink